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S Byerley
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Posted - 2013.07.04 12:05:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Never heard of mittani, one of your scamming alts?
I think he's the guy who posts all those LoL reviews. |
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
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Posted - 2013.07.04 16:03:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Put another way: the moment you say GÇ£ganking is risk freeGÇ¥ you disqualify yourself from discussing ganking because you don't understand any of the involved mechanics or concepts.
It's risk-free because the costs are certain and relatively low. You (or at least normal people) don't consider shooting ammo risky because while the payout is uncertain, the cost is consistent and known before you start.
Ganking is not risky in the normal sense because there's no collateral, no shiny ship investment that you might lose if things go horribly wrong.
Tippia wrote:This simple fact is further bolstered by the other fact that freighters are not dying by the droves.
I'd wager this is part obscurity, part general decency, and part fun factor. Historically, those become non-factors if someone popularizes the act and forces CCP to adjust things. You could argue it's better for CCP to remain reactionary in these areas (it has merit), but we might as well discuss how best to change things when **** does hit the fan. |
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
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Posted - 2013.07.04 18:28:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Using the freighter explosion in this thread it took 29 destroyers and someone in what was presumably a newbie frigate to take him down. Assuming that the destroyer pilots where flying T2 fit Catalysts (they're Goons, money isn't a problem) then we're looking at a skill training time investment of 667 days (29*23) on the part of the gankers, vs a skill training time of 90 days on the part of the freighter pilot.
The few pilots I looked up use meta 0 fits for the cats, T2 for the brutii
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20006665 |
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:36:00 -
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Rasicloud wrote:the whole miniluv ganking needs a ton of preparations and metagaming (buying+fitting+transport ships to target systems, get enough people to fly those ships,coordinate (broadcasts and voicecomms) them so that they fire simultaniously etc.
people doing this deserve a reward
Sounds like incursions with less risk and better payout.
Oh, I forgot, PVE is always easier because it's PVE. |
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
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Posted - 2013.07.06 00:26:00 -
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Anyone know what the average salvage from a freighter/JF is? |
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